By LEWIS REGENSTEIN. Christians should be aware that, whoever killed Jesus, if this tragedy had not happened they would have neither their religion nor their Salvation.
I don't speak for G-d, or for what He may have inspired. However, we are happy you revealed yourself to speak for Him. In sure He's taking you as seriously as an I.
Sure I would stake your life on any proposition you wish to make. If you're asking if I fear myths, superstitions and the narratives of anyone's belief system, for example yours, after having been to the very places where these events supposed to have taken place, the answer is no.
In all of my responses I have given for this article which appears to be a defense of the Jews in Jesus time. In Jesus own words he declared those of who delivered him (the religious Jews) to Pilate have the greater sin. It is in the 19 chapter in the book of John the apostle. That is the greatest indictment anyone could receive from the mouth of the Messiah. There is no righteousness in doing wrong or justification. Sin is sin!
Well, the murderers were the Romans, and high Priests employed by, and who worked for the Romans. Some of these were presumably Romans themselves. So what happens to their children, who cares? Jewish law - and Jesus understood it - FORBIDS the punishment of a third party for the crimes of the first. In other words, this rule has been incorporated into western law.
The Jews in Jesus' time were his friends, not his enemies. Believing had nothing to do with it. The Jews mourned a fellow Jew, period. No, his disciples did not go to his grave. They were in hiding from the Romans. Only his family and relatives went to his grave.
In your defense of Jewish law you said much yet they were willing to stone a woman caught in the very act of adultry, where was the man or other party of the act? His answer caused the religious leaders to walk away. He that is without sin, let him cast the first stone. Yes the disciples weren’t hiding from the Roman’s for they found no fault with Jesus and they weren’t hiding from the Messiah. They were hiding from those Jews who love the praise of men more than the praise of God.
You say who cares? If you think Catholicism is christian you are blind. It is one of the whores spoken of in revelation. All of them that pollute the gospel of salvation will find their reward in a place of torment. That means all who don’t recognize God manifest in flesh 1 Timothy 3:16 and those who have not entered in like they did in facts 2:38
I don't know to whom you addressed your comments, however consider this observation:
Your words: "16:2 the disciples gathered on the first day of the week. Sometimes because of fear of the Jews."
Trying to understand, you mean the disciples feared the Jew rabbi Jesus, an orthodox Jew himself?
Maybe you meant the Jesus who never met a Christian in his life?
Or do you mean the Jesus whose parents, siblings cousins, relatives, friends, and disciples were all Jews?
Are they the Jews you think feared Jesus? If so, please explain exactly what they feared about Jesus.
Lastly, the calendar - the western calendar - had nothing to do with Jesus or the Sabbath.
Jesus never accepted the western calendar or the word Sunday. The calendar didn't exist during his life.
The only calendar Jesus accepted is the one referenced in the Bible - aka, The Old Testament. That is the only testament Jesus ever read, and from which he worshiped three times a day to a Jewish G-d, and especially on the Sabbath - Saturdays.
There are too many errors in this article to refute them all, but here are a few.
First, the answer to the question of who is responsible for the death of Jesus is both; the gentiles (Romans) and the Jews both bear responsibility. Pilate and the Romans (gentiles) because Pilate was too much of a coward to set an innocent man free and the Jews for demanding Jesus' death. In fact, the Jews expressly take responsibility.
Matthew 27:24-25 - When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, "I am innocent of the blood of this just Person. You see to it." 25)And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children."
By extension every human being bears responsibility for the death of Jesus, because our sin requires Jesus' death if we are to have any chance of being reconciled with God. Hebrews 9:22 - ". . . without shedding of blood there is no remission."
Second, was the Apostle Paul a Jew? Yes he was, until he became a Christian. If you read on in Philippians 3 you see that Paul had turned his back on Judaism and embraced Christianity . . .
Philippians 3:4-8 - . . . If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: 5)circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6)concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 7)But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. 8)Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ . . .
Then there is the death of Jesus. Peter says to a crowd of Jews gathered for Pentecost . . .
Acts 2:23 - Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;
Jesus' death was God's plan from the beginning. Revelation 13:8 refers to Jesus Christ as ". . . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
Lastly, Jesus and his disciples had preached for three years, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matthew 4:17) The church is the kingdom being talked about (Matthew 16:18-19). We see in Ephesians 3 that the establishment of the church was God's plan from the beginning.
Ephesians 3:8-11 - "To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9)and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; 10)to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, 11)according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord . . ."
The next time you want to write an article like this how about you do a little actual Bible study to see what the Scriptures actually say, instead of taking some verses out of context to try to support your preconceived conclusion.
I have little to add to anyone's comment, including that of the author's about Jesus. However, at least in Israel, there's no evidence he ever existed. At Ceasarea however, a coastal town near Tel Aviv, a stone seat at the Roman colosseum was uplifted, and Ponteus' name was inscribed into the stone. https://tinyurl.com/2ndvevb7 and https://tinyurl.com/2dro95yj
At Capernaum, purportedly Peter the Fisherman's home, over it a church was built.
The synagogue in the Greek style is a stone's throw away from the home, and so is the Sermon on the Mount. However, there is no evidence of Jesus' existence other than fables. Jesus supposedly spent a great deal of time with Peter, neither were married I assume. The question is, what were two grown men doing in the tiny house under that church at night?
Lastly, even if we follow the story as written or rewritten, Judea where the Jerusalem Temple stood, was under unrelenting brutal Roman occupation, and the so-called high priests were political, not religious appointments. For all we know, some of these men may have been pagans, Romans, not even Jewish. They certainly acted in Rome's interests, not in Israel's. Jesus, as it were, if he were real, had a mission. To the Jews. There was not a single Christian he, his family, or his apostles ever met during their lifetimes.
And, not to be forgotten, Jesus was one of perhaps 50-100,000 Jews cricified by the Romans.
Glad you revealed your faith. Just remember everyone’s reward awaits them after death. Don’t be the one who mourns after he is revealed to all of Israel like those in Zachariah 12:10. Remember Revelation 1:7
The author used the scriptures to prove his point. Some readers used the scriptures, not to prove any significant point, but to bash the author about his knowledge. My view is this. Whatever you believe, it's the ONLY True Religion. Whatever others believe, theirs too, is the ONLY True Religion. Whatever branch of Christianity to which you belong is the ONLY True Christianity.
Now that we can agree to the ONLY True Religion, and the ONLY True Christianity that will disenfranchise all other Christians, as well as the Jews, perhaps we can move on to the author's point.
Which was certainly not to discuss one's agreement with the ONLY True Religion of one party, yours, the one that might just behead and stick other people's heads a pogo sticks.
The author's bottom line is that everyone was Jewish in Jesus' era, but the Romans, and perhaps some folk who came by to trade, exchange currencies, and sell magic carpets. And the High Priests, Caiaphas for example, was likely not even a Jew, as the name is clearly Roman. In fact the Roman procurator Valerius Gratus appointed him to the job.
Look, it beats jobs such as picking up spit at the racetrack.
Caiaphas appointment was sort of like Nancy Pelosi appointing Ted Cruz as her advisor.
Meanwhile the Romans crucified over 100,000 Jews who did not agree with Rome. Jesus was among the 100,000. Some people believe Jesus was a human form of G-d, other people believe the 100,000 Jews crucified by the Romans were all gods.
Some believe that the Jews are responsible for the death of one of their own, which is not exactly novel, since the Egyptians, Persians, Mesopotamians, Greeks, Romans, also killed their own for various reasons. In other words, none of the people of other nations went through centuries persecuting the entire Greek people for their killing another Greek twenty-one centuries ago.
Whomever "killed" Jesus is ultimately not the point. Western law from time immemorial, including Jesus' time, Jewish Law in fact, forbids the persecution of parties not responsible for another's crime. The tens of millions of Jews since Jesus' time were certainly not responsible, nor complicit, in Jesus' death - not even remotely. Yet they too were figuratively crucified for it.
Not a single Jew, accordingly, is responsible for the death of one of 100,000 Jews murdered by the Romans.
One should at this point ponder what Jesus, his parents, relatives, disciples, might think, turning in their graves, asking why Jesus' very bloodline - the blood descendants of Jesus, his brothers and sisters - were tortured and murdered through the ages for the crimes of a conquering people in a nation not theirs?
Most ironic and poignant is the fact that no one persecuted, tortured, imprisoned, and murdered the Romans or Italians for Jesus' death through the ages, were they?
The assault on the Jews by both Christianity and Islam is the greatest crime of humankind. It is antisemitism plain and simple, and it is irrational. It is gross, appalling, criminal, and yes, there is a G-d who will take revenge as HE promised for those who raged against HIS people.
None of the hate, persecution, butchering and burning would have been sanctioned by Jesus, nor his Jewish apostles.
I put Jesus on that tree and he gave his life (willfully, gladly) for you and me. I don't think any jew or gentile could have killed GOD. Very milk like thinking.
Jesus was murdered by government for committing tax crimes, forbidding paying taxes to Caesar, and leading tax collectors away from their jobs. Just getting Matthew and Zachaeus to stop collecting tax was enough to charge Jesus, but Jesus also got many more collectors to stop collecting taxes.
"The tax collectors were everywhere in the habit of coming to listen to him"
Jesus stopped tax collections and Pilate was mad enough to destroy Jesus.
The Jewish priests wanted Jesus dead, because he called them hypocrites, and told followers to pray at home instead of in church, aka synagogues.
"We found this man subverting the nation, forbidding paying taxes"
FYI... Romans did not punish criminals by nailing them to crosses, they impaled them like scorpions on a stick. Bible describes the impaling of criminals in story of Mordecai and Haman in Esther. They used a 75 foot long telephone-like pole sharpend to a point.
You can see these poles in many fortresses in Europe where ROMAN Catholic Bishops were in charge of impaling criminals.
Google "who would Jesus tax data mining the bible"
It’s funny (not) that the religious leaders and and their followers of the day took Pilates offer to have a murderer released to their company instead of the Christ. It shows you the company they would rather keep.
Nobody killed Jesus, but evil people hurt Him a lot. He also physically bore sickness and disease on the cross before dying
Isaiah 52:14 : His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and His form marred beyond human likeness
John 10:17-18 : The reason My Father loves Me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from My Father.
Do you believe the New Testament starting with Matthew ending with Revelation is inspired by God yes or no? Problem is you don't know is Jesus was real or not. Will you stake you life on the fact he may or may not be real?
The answer as to who killed Jesus is really a simple one if you understand that heritage culture and traditions have nothing to do with salvation. God is able to cause stones to cry out his praises. The ones who killed Jesus were those who are not this. Jew or Gentiles means nothing before the throne of judgement. If you are not His you are cast away to be burned.
Neither one killed Jesus! He laid down his life freely, as the hub of salvation. Culminating with his being raised for OUR JUSTIFICATION. The point is Jesus death was part of a master plan for the redemption of fallen man. I wish the author had mentioned something about salvation by grace thru faith in the finished work of our savior Jesus Christ. As bad as this article is makes me wonder what his motives really are..........maybe take all the blame off the jews? Got to be somthing else...................
Sounds like an AI delving into what it doesn’t understand. Jesus died under the Old Testament law to fulfill the prophecy of a New Testament. Since Jesus is the one true God, the everlasting Father, the Jews couldn’t accept him because they were blinded and couldn’t see. The evil one thought that if he could only destroy this manifestation of God in the flesh he would inherit all of creations authority. The New Testament couldn’t begin until the death of the Testator. What the evil one couldn’t for-see was that this was the plan all along there assuring mankind’s redemption through repentance, baptism in Jesus name and the pouring out of God’s spirit.
Sorry, incorrect. Crucifixion is the Roman process of execution. Impaling is the European process of execution of Muslims - see the Vlad Tepes story. Stoning to death is the Jewish and Muslim form of execution. The Muslims also behead, as a form of execution. Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews. The entire affair was a Roman-organized procedure.
The Jews have nothing to apologize for the Roman execution of a fellow Jew the Jews admired.
Only the Jews, not the Romans, not the Christians, mourned Jesus at his grave.
Whether it’sa hammer, a knife or a cross, those who wanted him not alive cursed themselves by crying out,” his blood be upon us and our children “. I wonder who they would be called by you? People who knowingly prefer a murderer over God manifest in flesh don’t sit too well in my eyes come the day of judgement. You should get it straight also…only his disciples, followers and believers mourned him and went to his grave. Those who after Pentecost were called Christian’s.
After reading my reply I thought I should clear up followers and disciples as they meaning were first called Christians in Antioch. I’m glad though that the man who sat at the feet of Gamaliel brought that distinction Acts 22:3-28
It's the politics of the day that killed him as well as, perhaps, his own illusions, misperception or excessive trust exemplified in his query, 'Father, why hast thou deserted me?', which suggests he expected dad to intervene. This suggests over-confidence was maybe a factor.
I have enjoyed your writing and I believe also that corrupt Jewish leaders were complicit with Pontius Pilate in killing Jesus. If a black man today kills a white man I do not judge the whole Black community, it is the man only and vice versa. Such is the way.
As for Catholicism it is not a real Christian religion for they pray to Idols which God has ruled not to do. It's in the 10 Commandments. They also changed the Sabbath to Sunday which it clearly is not, the Sabbath is Saturday. They say they alone can forgive sin, not so only Jesus can do that and the Father God.
If you look at any calendar on a wall you will notice that they all start on Sunday…. The first day of a new week of seven days. You could also look at the various places in scripture; John 20:19 Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2 the disciples gathered on the first day of the week. Sometimes because of fear of the Jews. The sabbath is always Saturday as it is called by Gentiles. Perhaps you should look a little deeper into the scriptures.
I don't speak for G-d, or for what He may have inspired. However, we are happy you revealed yourself to speak for Him. In sure He's taking you as seriously as an I.
Sure I would stake your life on any proposition you wish to make. If you're asking if I fear myths, superstitions and the narratives of anyone's belief system, for example yours, after having been to the very places where these events supposed to have taken place, the answer is no.
Its Jesus or the other. You choose.
In all of my responses I have given for this article which appears to be a defense of the Jews in Jesus time. In Jesus own words he declared those of who delivered him (the religious Jews) to Pilate have the greater sin. It is in the 19 chapter in the book of John the apostle. That is the greatest indictment anyone could receive from the mouth of the Messiah. There is no righteousness in doing wrong or justification. Sin is sin!
Well, the murderers were the Romans, and high Priests employed by, and who worked for the Romans. Some of these were presumably Romans themselves. So what happens to their children, who cares? Jewish law - and Jesus understood it - FORBIDS the punishment of a third party for the crimes of the first. In other words, this rule has been incorporated into western law.
The Jews in Jesus' time were his friends, not his enemies. Believing had nothing to do with it. The Jews mourned a fellow Jew, period. No, his disciples did not go to his grave. They were in hiding from the Romans. Only his family and relatives went to his grave.
Moreover, Pentecost was a Jewish holiday to begin with https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pentecost-Christianity and Christianity didn't come into being until hundreds of years after Jesus' presumed death.
So in your defense your saying high priest we’re Jewish or not?
In your defense of Jewish law you said much yet they were willing to stone a woman caught in the very act of adultry, where was the man or other party of the act? His answer caused the religious leaders to walk away. He that is without sin, let him cast the first stone. Yes the disciples weren’t hiding from the Roman’s for they found no fault with Jesus and they weren’t hiding from the Messiah. They were hiding from those Jews who love the praise of men more than the praise of God.
You say who cares? If you think Catholicism is christian you are blind. It is one of the whores spoken of in revelation. All of them that pollute the gospel of salvation will find their reward in a place of torment. That means all who don’t recognize God manifest in flesh 1 Timothy 3:16 and those who have not entered in like they did in facts 2:38
I don't know to whom you addressed your comments, however consider this observation:
Your words: "16:2 the disciples gathered on the first day of the week. Sometimes because of fear of the Jews."
Trying to understand, you mean the disciples feared the Jew rabbi Jesus, an orthodox Jew himself?
Maybe you meant the Jesus who never met a Christian in his life?
Or do you mean the Jesus whose parents, siblings cousins, relatives, friends, and disciples were all Jews?
Are they the Jews you think feared Jesus? If so, please explain exactly what they feared about Jesus.
Lastly, the calendar - the western calendar - had nothing to do with Jesus or the Sabbath.
Jesus never accepted the western calendar or the word Sunday. The calendar didn't exist during his life.
The only calendar Jesus accepted is the one referenced in the Bible - aka, The Old Testament. That is the only testament Jesus ever read, and from which he worshiped three times a day to a Jewish G-d, and especially on the Sabbath - Saturdays.
Jesus is the Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Immanuel….God manifest in flesh. The one whose death brought the New Testament
There are too many errors in this article to refute them all, but here are a few.
First, the answer to the question of who is responsible for the death of Jesus is both; the gentiles (Romans) and the Jews both bear responsibility. Pilate and the Romans (gentiles) because Pilate was too much of a coward to set an innocent man free and the Jews for demanding Jesus' death. In fact, the Jews expressly take responsibility.
Matthew 27:24-25 - When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, "I am innocent of the blood of this just Person. You see to it." 25)And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children."
By extension every human being bears responsibility for the death of Jesus, because our sin requires Jesus' death if we are to have any chance of being reconciled with God. Hebrews 9:22 - ". . . without shedding of blood there is no remission."
Second, was the Apostle Paul a Jew? Yes he was, until he became a Christian. If you read on in Philippians 3 you see that Paul had turned his back on Judaism and embraced Christianity . . .
Philippians 3:4-8 - . . . If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: 5)circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6)concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 7)But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. 8)Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ . . .
Then there is the death of Jesus. Peter says to a crowd of Jews gathered for Pentecost . . .
Acts 2:23 - Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;
Jesus' death was God's plan from the beginning. Revelation 13:8 refers to Jesus Christ as ". . . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
Lastly, Jesus and his disciples had preached for three years, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matthew 4:17) The church is the kingdom being talked about (Matthew 16:18-19). We see in Ephesians 3 that the establishment of the church was God's plan from the beginning.
Ephesians 3:8-11 - "To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9)and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; 10)to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, 11)according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord . . ."
The next time you want to write an article like this how about you do a little actual Bible study to see what the Scriptures actually say, instead of taking some verses out of context to try to support your preconceived conclusion.
I have little to add to anyone's comment, including that of the author's about Jesus. However, at least in Israel, there's no evidence he ever existed. At Ceasarea however, a coastal town near Tel Aviv, a stone seat at the Roman colosseum was uplifted, and Ponteus' name was inscribed into the stone. https://tinyurl.com/2ndvevb7 and https://tinyurl.com/2dro95yj
At Capernaum, purportedly Peter the Fisherman's home, over it a church was built.
https://tinyurl.com/2p6c3xf5 and https://tinyurl.com/2qby8hap and https://tinyurl.com/2hmktkmw
The synagogue in the Greek style is a stone's throw away from the home, and so is the Sermon on the Mount. However, there is no evidence of Jesus' existence other than fables. Jesus supposedly spent a great deal of time with Peter, neither were married I assume. The question is, what were two grown men doing in the tiny house under that church at night?
Lastly, even if we follow the story as written or rewritten, Judea where the Jerusalem Temple stood, was under unrelenting brutal Roman occupation, and the so-called high priests were political, not religious appointments. For all we know, some of these men may have been pagans, Romans, not even Jewish. They certainly acted in Rome's interests, not in Israel's. Jesus, as it were, if he were real, had a mission. To the Jews. There was not a single Christian he, his family, or his apostles ever met during their lifetimes.
And, not to be forgotten, Jesus was one of perhaps 50-100,000 Jews cricified by the Romans.
Glad you revealed your faith. Just remember everyone’s reward awaits them after death. Don’t be the one who mourns after he is revealed to all of Israel like those in Zachariah 12:10. Remember Revelation 1:7
The author used the scriptures to prove his point. Some readers used the scriptures, not to prove any significant point, but to bash the author about his knowledge. My view is this. Whatever you believe, it's the ONLY True Religion. Whatever others believe, theirs too, is the ONLY True Religion. Whatever branch of Christianity to which you belong is the ONLY True Christianity.
Now that we can agree to the ONLY True Religion, and the ONLY True Christianity that will disenfranchise all other Christians, as well as the Jews, perhaps we can move on to the author's point.
Which was certainly not to discuss one's agreement with the ONLY True Religion of one party, yours, the one that might just behead and stick other people's heads a pogo sticks.
The author's bottom line is that everyone was Jewish in Jesus' era, but the Romans, and perhaps some folk who came by to trade, exchange currencies, and sell magic carpets. And the High Priests, Caiaphas for example, was likely not even a Jew, as the name is clearly Roman. In fact the Roman procurator Valerius Gratus appointed him to the job.
Look, it beats jobs such as picking up spit at the racetrack.
Caiaphas appointment was sort of like Nancy Pelosi appointing Ted Cruz as her advisor.
Meanwhile the Romans crucified over 100,000 Jews who did not agree with Rome. Jesus was among the 100,000. Some people believe Jesus was a human form of G-d, other people believe the 100,000 Jews crucified by the Romans were all gods.
Some believe that the Jews are responsible for the death of one of their own, which is not exactly novel, since the Egyptians, Persians, Mesopotamians, Greeks, Romans, also killed their own for various reasons. In other words, none of the people of other nations went through centuries persecuting the entire Greek people for their killing another Greek twenty-one centuries ago.
Whomever "killed" Jesus is ultimately not the point. Western law from time immemorial, including Jesus' time, Jewish Law in fact, forbids the persecution of parties not responsible for another's crime. The tens of millions of Jews since Jesus' time were certainly not responsible, nor complicit, in Jesus' death - not even remotely. Yet they too were figuratively crucified for it.
Not a single Jew, accordingly, is responsible for the death of one of 100,000 Jews murdered by the Romans.
One should at this point ponder what Jesus, his parents, relatives, disciples, might think, turning in their graves, asking why Jesus' very bloodline - the blood descendants of Jesus, his brothers and sisters - were tortured and murdered through the ages for the crimes of a conquering people in a nation not theirs?
Most ironic and poignant is the fact that no one persecuted, tortured, imprisoned, and murdered the Romans or Italians for Jesus' death through the ages, were they?
The assault on the Jews by both Christianity and Islam is the greatest crime of humankind. It is antisemitism plain and simple, and it is irrational. It is gross, appalling, criminal, and yes, there is a G-d who will take revenge as HE promised for those who raged against HIS people.
None of the hate, persecution, butchering and burning would have been sanctioned by Jesus, nor his Jewish apostles.
I put Jesus on that tree and he gave his life (willfully, gladly) for you and me. I don't think any jew or gentile could have killed GOD. Very milk like thinking.
Your right. In the gospel of John, chapter 10 verse 17- 18
Government murdered Jesus.
Jesus was murdered by government for committing tax crimes, forbidding paying taxes to Caesar, and leading tax collectors away from their jobs. Just getting Matthew and Zachaeus to stop collecting tax was enough to charge Jesus, but Jesus also got many more collectors to stop collecting taxes.
"The tax collectors were everywhere in the habit of coming to listen to him"
Jesus stopped tax collections and Pilate was mad enough to destroy Jesus.
The Jewish priests wanted Jesus dead, because he called them hypocrites, and told followers to pray at home instead of in church, aka synagogues.
"We found this man subverting the nation, forbidding paying taxes"
FYI... Romans did not punish criminals by nailing them to crosses, they impaled them like scorpions on a stick. Bible describes the impaling of criminals in story of Mordecai and Haman in Esther. They used a 75 foot long telephone-like pole sharpend to a point.
You can see these poles in many fortresses in Europe where ROMAN Catholic Bishops were in charge of impaling criminals.
Google "who would Jesus tax data mining the bible"
It’s funny (not) that the religious leaders and and their followers of the day took Pilates offer to have a murderer released to their company instead of the Christ. It shows you the company they would rather keep.
Nobody killed Jesus, but evil people hurt Him a lot. He also physically bore sickness and disease on the cross before dying
Isaiah 52:14 : His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and His form marred beyond human likeness
John 10:17-18 : The reason My Father loves Me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from My Father.
Do you believe the New Testament starting with Matthew ending with Revelation is inspired by God yes or no? Problem is you don't know is Jesus was real or not. Will you stake you life on the fact he may or may not be real?
1 Thessalonians 2:15 very much says Jesus was killed by the Jews.
The answer as to who killed Jesus is really a simple one if you understand that heritage culture and traditions have nothing to do with salvation. God is able to cause stones to cry out his praises. The ones who killed Jesus were those who are not this. Jew or Gentiles means nothing before the throne of judgement. If you are not His you are cast away to be burned.
Neither one killed Jesus! He laid down his life freely, as the hub of salvation. Culminating with his being raised for OUR JUSTIFICATION. The point is Jesus death was part of a master plan for the redemption of fallen man. I wish the author had mentioned something about salvation by grace thru faith in the finished work of our savior Jesus Christ. As bad as this article is makes me wonder what his motives really are..........maybe take all the blame off the jews? Got to be somthing else...................
Sounds like an AI delving into what it doesn’t understand. Jesus died under the Old Testament law to fulfill the prophecy of a New Testament. Since Jesus is the one true God, the everlasting Father, the Jews couldn’t accept him because they were blinded and couldn’t see. The evil one thought that if he could only destroy this manifestation of God in the flesh he would inherit all of creations authority. The New Testament couldn’t begin until the death of the Testator. What the evil one couldn’t for-see was that this was the plan all along there assuring mankind’s redemption through repentance, baptism in Jesus name and the pouring out of God’s spirit.
Sorry, incorrect. Crucifixion is the Roman process of execution. Impaling is the European process of execution of Muslims - see the Vlad Tepes story. Stoning to death is the Jewish and Muslim form of execution. The Muslims also behead, as a form of execution. Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews. The entire affair was a Roman-organized procedure.
The Jews have nothing to apologize for the Roman execution of a fellow Jew the Jews admired.
Only the Jews, not the Romans, not the Christians, mourned Jesus at his grave.
Whether it’sa hammer, a knife or a cross, those who wanted him not alive cursed themselves by crying out,” his blood be upon us and our children “. I wonder who they would be called by you? People who knowingly prefer a murderer over God manifest in flesh don’t sit too well in my eyes come the day of judgement. You should get it straight also…only his disciples, followers and believers mourned him and went to his grave. Those who after Pentecost were called Christian’s.
After reading my reply I thought I should clear up followers and disciples as they meaning were first called Christians in Antioch. I’m glad though that the man who sat at the feet of Gamaliel brought that distinction Acts 22:3-28
It's the politics of the day that killed him as well as, perhaps, his own illusions, misperception or excessive trust exemplified in his query, 'Father, why hast thou deserted me?', which suggests he expected dad to intervene. This suggests over-confidence was maybe a factor.
I have enjoyed your writing and I believe also that corrupt Jewish leaders were complicit with Pontius Pilate in killing Jesus. If a black man today kills a white man I do not judge the whole Black community, it is the man only and vice versa. Such is the way.
As for Catholicism it is not a real Christian religion for they pray to Idols which God has ruled not to do. It's in the 10 Commandments. They also changed the Sabbath to Sunday which it clearly is not, the Sabbath is Saturday. They say they alone can forgive sin, not so only Jesus can do that and the Father God.
If you remember the scriptures of the New Testament. Believers gathered on the first day of the week which would be a Sunday
If you want to believe it is Sunday your free to be misled... I will not.
If you look at any calendar on a wall you will notice that they all start on Sunday…. The first day of a new week of seven days. You could also look at the various places in scripture; John 20:19 Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2 the disciples gathered on the first day of the week. Sometimes because of fear of the Jews. The sabbath is always Saturday as it is called by Gentiles. Perhaps you should look a little deeper into the scriptures.